tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post8351812224032654810..comments2024-03-18T17:29:33.000-05:00Comments on Rockman Corner: Dr. Wily Seemingly MIA in Disney's "Wreck-It Ralph"Protodudehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08650204880792333537noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-31516653233326253152012-06-11T04:15:21.201-05:002012-06-11T04:15:21.201-05:00Since we're not allowed to complain I guess I&...Since we're not allowed to complain I guess I'll just overlook this one as well...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-33223711794347892592012-06-08T18:32:30.452-05:002012-06-08T18:32:30.452-05:00I guess some people won't be happy no matter w...I guess some people won't be happy no matter what they say. Those people are starting to get on my nerves as well.kobun37noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-27506723146470770622012-06-08T17:39:09.705-05:002012-06-08T17:39:09.705-05:00@kobun37: Yeah, except the fans are just going to ...@kobun37: Yeah, except the fans are just going to pass it off as an excuse.Dr. Jerknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-41733177306984268322012-06-08T11:18:05.616-05:002012-06-08T11:18:05.616-05:00Apparently someone asked about Wily not appearing ...Apparently someone asked about Wily not appearing in the trailer during the Ask Capcom E3 stream. Seth said they did not have anything to do with it and he wasn't sure why Disney removed him from the scene.<br /><br />So I think we can quit blaming Capcom for this.kobun37noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-2739245290848055662012-06-08T11:05:30.930-05:002012-06-08T11:05:30.930-05:00True. Wily was in two arcade titles. What about th...True. Wily was in two arcade titles. What about that Playchoice-10 version of Mega Man 3 as well?<br /><br />And Torchman, he said his theory was squelched, as in, thrown out due to those very reasons. =PMegaMachttp://megamanx9.com/forum/index.php?/user/4-mac/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-47310322493617804182012-06-07T23:46:37.566-05:002012-06-07T23:46:37.566-05:00@Joseph Collins: Sonic the Fighters and SegaSonic ...@Joseph Collins: Sonic the Fighters and SegaSonic the Hedgehog. Look them up. It really makes you look like your grasping at straws here.Torchmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-52425709796068398932012-06-07T23:39:31.809-05:002012-06-07T23:39:31.809-05:00Wait a minute. I just thought of something. ... ...Wait a minute. I just thought of something. ... and then immediately rebutted my own thought.<br /><br />What was this thought? "Arcade characters only, so Wily had to go."<br />But then wait! Dr. Wily was in <i>two</i> arcade games!<br />But wait-<i>wait</i>!! Technically speaking, Dr. "Eggman" been in <b>no</b> arcade games! (To the best of my knowledge.)<br /><br />So... yeah. Theory formed, then squelched.Jo Li KMChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06463040155653479273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-33718811650310932582012-06-07T19:50:19.004-05:002012-06-07T19:50:19.004-05:00For a franchise they claim is sooo important to th...For a franchise they claim is sooo important to them, they've been doing the worse job in the world of showing it lately...Tayonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-35729158495751626362012-06-07T18:46:32.573-05:002012-06-07T18:46:32.573-05:00@Dr. Jerk
Hey now, I have nothing against Sven. I...@Dr. Jerk<br /><br />Hey now, I have nothing against Sven. I understand the higher ups have control over what gets made and what doesn't and that's why I have harsh feelings toward them for their foolish decisions and accusations saying Mega Man doesn't have an audience and that it was the fan's fault for Legends 3 and all that mumbo jumbo, etc etc. Of course now that's all water under the bridge. I've long since moved on from Legends 3, I've crossed said bridge. Still, doesn't mean I won't continue to be vocal and assertive to my feelings as a fan. I still want the game to get made. Others can get annoyed by it, but as the saying goes, "just sayin'". I'm not entirely saying Capcom had Wily removed either. It's just a possibility for reasons unknown.<br /><br />@kobun37<br /><br />Ah, I see. I've never beaten Altered Beast so that character would be obscure to me and probably others. Good to know they're actually based on something though but you're right...that makes Wily's case all the more stranger. Oh well, I just hope some little tidbit from Mega Man will be thrown in. I mean, it's cool they even thought about Wily and used him. They may very well have chosen a different route in which to tribute our blue boy. Here's hopen' =)MegaMachttp://megamanx9.com/forum/index.php?/user/4-mac/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-56419215272407721062012-06-07T16:58:53.591-05:002012-06-07T16:58:53.591-05:00You are not alone, Dr. Jerk. In the TMMN article ...You are not alone, Dr. Jerk. In the TMMN article for the same news, Heat Man posted in the comments "I don’t wanna see any 'CAPCOM MADE THEM PULL WILY BECAUSE THEY’RE KILLING MEGA MAN RAAAUGHGHG!! I NEED MY PILLS!!!'"<br />I too am a member of the grumpy old guy club :)<br />-udundamnedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10858925770282393755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-61127621865096733772012-06-07T16:16:10.651-05:002012-06-07T16:16:10.651-05:00@MegaMac: Of course people are getting annoyed at ...@MegaMac: Of course people are getting annoyed at how Capcom is handling their franchises. I also annoyed at them all the same, and I was very much upset at the cancellation of Legends 3. But I also don't complain at the littlest of things that were most likely not faults of Capcom.<br /><br />Unfortunately, this is how game companies work. They have to go with what their big bosses say, and employees also cannot reveal stuff that they may otherwise want to tell us. I happen to believe that Sven does know that Capcom may have something good planned in store, and maybe not just for MM but for their other franchises as well, but legally he is unable to reveal stuff to us. So I genuinely feel bad for Sven for all of the needless bad rep he's getting when he's just doing his...<br /><br />What's that word again? Oh yes, his job.<br /><br />And whether YOU like it or not, I AM fed up with the fandom always complaining, and that's not really going to end anytime soon. It's like me telling every complainer to shut up, but things don't work like that. That said, there are also plenty of other people elsewhere on the net who agree with me. I'm probably just the only one who is vocal here, but I guess someone has to be just to even out the comments.Dr. Jerknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-57118532628956269952012-06-07T14:39:32.404-05:002012-06-07T14:39:32.404-05:00+1 Dr. Jerk.
-ud+1 Dr. Jerk.<br />-udundamnedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10858925770282393755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-10788611984132791592012-06-07T14:37:13.053-05:002012-06-07T14:37:13.053-05:00My sense is, Capcom had 2 reps in there with Zangi...My sense is, Capcom had 2 reps in there with Zangief and Wily, creative wanted to add another character from another company in there, and Wily naturally got the axe since Zangief delivers a therapy line better. Wily WANTS to be evil. <br /><br />Consider it a compliment as to how truly evil Wily’s character is written.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-16267017557090847552012-06-07T14:12:14.438-05:002012-06-07T14:12:14.438-05:00@MegaMac
There are no generic characters in the B...@MegaMac<br /><br />There are no generic characters in the Bad-Anon scene in the trailer. I've seen them all at least tentatively identified on other sites. Some are just very obscure, which makes me think Wily's recognizability is not an issue. For example, the rhino is the final boss from Altered Beast. Surely Wily is more recognizable than a boss character who appeared in one game from over 20 years ago.<br /><br />I doubt there will be any generic or captain erstaz characters in the movie. Disney's original characters will obviously be the most important in terms of the plot, and they've gone out of their way to license a bunch of real characters for cameos. If they couldn't get the rights to a specific character, there are tons of others they can use, so why would they use generics?kobun37noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-2625849820914756892012-06-07T12:54:34.605-05:002012-06-07T12:54:34.605-05:00Sigh... Whad'ya expect?
Don't get me wron...Sigh... Whad'ya expect?<br /><br />Don't get me wrong, I'm still gonna watch the film, but Dr. Wiley is right up there with Bowser and Eggman for iconic villains. Removing him feels like a punch in the gut.Cyberguy64https://www.blogger.com/profile/15651935287930208018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-58707334545925357412012-06-07T11:58:40.025-05:002012-06-07T11:58:40.025-05:00I really hope this movie makes a small cameo with ...I really hope this movie makes a small cameo with Captain N! That would be fantastic since this would be the perfect movie to do so!James Swifthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16395678450709922072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-7642471322559703482012-06-07T09:51:19.814-05:002012-06-07T09:51:19.814-05:00OH one more thing. You keep saying it has a Who Fr...OH one more thing. You keep saying it has a Who Framed Roger Rabbit vibe. Guess what, it wasn't that easy for the companies involved.<br /><br />While Disney may have made it, they were pretty much at the whims of the other companies for how their characters were used. Warner Bros was allowed to demand how their characters would be in the film in exchange for... well... letting their characters be in the film. At the same time, Loony Toons and Disney cartoons had to have the exact same screen time and couldn't be superior in any way to each other(ie the Piano scene with Donald and Daffy).<br /><br />What could have happened here was someone wasn't allowed a second franchise and threatened to pull out if others were allowed 2, so Capcom had to decide between Megaman and Street Fighter.<br /><br />Since Street Fighter had more recognizable characters(Zangief, Bison and, in a clean cut capture from a scene not from the trailer, a cameo by Chun Li) and may have been more involved than Megamans poor Dr.Wily model and not much else, Disney and Capcom may have agreed it was in the best interest of both parties, and for the movie itself, for Megaman stuff to be removed. If Wily was that skinny, who knows how the rest of the cast would have turned out if they cameod.Torchmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-87395671209831690622012-06-07T09:45:10.167-05:002012-06-07T09:45:10.167-05:00Capcom is funny.Capcom is funny.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-71132500640721640772012-06-07T09:42:01.412-05:002012-06-07T09:42:01.412-05:00Oh, and Dr. Jerk. I'm getting real annoyed at ...Oh, and Dr. Jerk. I'm getting real annoyed at Capcom not seeming to give a rats ass about one of their biggest franchises, whether they think it is or not. Whether they thing the fans are to blame or not. So, all is fair when the disappointments continue to pile up. Whether they did it or not, it still sucks.<br /><br />Also quit it with the sick of the fandom mess. Hell, Sonic fans got worked up over an eye color, was it? They got worked up over the years until they did something swell with Generations. We're just still being given the once over...MegaMachttp://megamanx9.com/forum/index.php?/user/4-mac/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-33937161670029975692012-06-07T09:35:19.113-05:002012-06-07T09:35:19.113-05:00C'mon, Torchman, it's Disney we're tal...C'mon, Torchman, it's Disney we're talking about. If they wanted to make a model out of anything, they could. It was a prototype model after all. Zangief looks different too, a lot more bulky looking. If Wily was removed because they couldn't get it right, then fine. I agree that I wouldn't want him to look like someone he's not...but how hard is it to get Wily's rather human, mad scientist look down? They can do it. At this time, I'm just hoping he makes an appearance elsewhere in the film. Maybe some other Mega Man character even. It'd just do the Mega Man franchise good to get some mainstream exposure in what looks to be an awesome movie.<br /><br />Wily may not be as big as Eggman, but hell. They have what looks to be a lot of generic villains in there that could have easily been swapped for Wily.MegaMachttp://megamanx9.com/forum/index.php?/user/4-mac/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-51054326355802857342012-06-07T09:18:30.046-05:002012-06-07T09:18:30.046-05:00@Torchman: I doubt that Capcom said no to the Dr. ...@Torchman: I doubt that Capcom said no to the Dr. Wily model and then said ok to Zangief being a villain.<br /><br />This is probably just Disney not wanting to use him for whatever reason, things like that change all the time in movies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-77650186075156331882012-06-07T05:14:21.594-05:002012-06-07T05:14:21.594-05:00I doubt Capcom had anything to do with Wily disapp...I doubt Capcom had anything to do with Wily disappearing from the scene. I don't think Wily is that obscure, but even so there are a TON of characters in the trailer that are way more obscure than Wily. <br /><br />I doubt the lack of a 3D model is a big deal either. Many of 80s and 90s era characters that appear didn't have 3D artwork, and Disney seems to be making their own 3D models of characters that have 3D models anyway. This makes sense considering the art style for existing models may not be high enough resolution or match the art style of the movie. <br /><br />I'm sure we'd all like to see Wily appear. Hopefully he will show up elsewhere or that isn't the final scene, but even if he's gone it doesn't automatically mean Capcom is at fault.<br /><br />The movie looks fantastic, and I'm sure I'll be seeing it opening day.kobun37noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-26638425961652725262012-06-07T02:28:53.632-05:002012-06-07T02:28:53.632-05:00Some of the "conspiracy theories" here a...Some of the "conspiracy theories" here are pretty damn ridiculous. Honestly, I do not believe Capcom is at fault for this. Seriously, every time a single thing happens, Capcom is instantly blamed. I'm getting really annoyed at this fandom.<br /><br />Me, even though I really love Dr. Wily a whole lot and everything, I'm not bothered at all in the slightest that he's apparently absent now. The movie doesn't look that very interesting or 'correct' to me (Zangief being a villain in this...), and the model of Wily was well, crap. And as others pointed out, Wily is hardly recognizable to the general public, or even to the gamers of today. And that bad model of his didn't help with that at all. Bowser, Eggman, and heck even Zangief even though he isn't a villain, can instantly be recognized by many. But Wily, even his official appearances, just looks like an Einstein wannabe.Dr. Jerknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-56164265075241422762012-06-07T00:26:18.471-05:002012-06-07T00:26:18.471-05:00Oh god...don't tell me Crapcom did it again!! ...Oh god...don't tell me Crapcom did it again!! I mean, I still have a doubt why Zangief's a bad guy (of course he was in the cartoon but NOT in the games), but why add another Street Fighter villain, the M. Bison? Don't tell me Capcom decided to replace our favorite mad scientist with the psycho-using butt-chinned macho?<br /><br />Oh well, at least they kept Bowser and Eggman's alive. Mario and Sonic's crossover legacy still lives. And that zombie...I guess he's from the House of the Dead.<br /><br />But hey...if Wily's not gonna appear, maybe other MM villains? Like Sigma?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-12700071693059046492012-06-06T23:28:28.613-05:002012-06-06T23:28:28.613-05:00@MegaMac: Let me put this in perspective using eve...@MegaMac: Let me put this in perspective using everyones favourite game, UMvC3.<br /><br />Marvel was on Capcom's backs 24/7 to make sure they got the characters right, and they themselves were responsible for how Dr. Strange turned out. If Marvel said no, Capcom had to either beg, Sentinel and Shuma, or they had to go with an alternative Marvel provided<br /><br />Wily has NEVER been done in a proper, NON DEFORMED, 3D model. Like I said, this is monumental for him. If Disney couldn't get him right, Capcom may have said no to maintain his image. At the same time, Disney may not have been a fan of the design and kicked him out.<br /><br />I mean look at the design in the prototype image. He's extremely skinny. Skinnier than I've even imagined him to be, skinnier than we see him in the comics. I barely recognize that Wily. If Capcom said no after seeing that, I whole heartedly agree with them. If Capcom said no because they felt he wouldn't be a proper representative of the entire franchise and would only cause an argument, I agree with them. If Capcom said no because they weren't given control over how the model looked, I agree with them.<br /><br />At the same time, Wily isn't a relevant villain in this day and age. The quiet nature of the Classic series for many years until 9 and 10, only to vanish again and never be heard from again, means he's not as known as Eggman, who is a more known Mad Scientist type character and has had constant exposure. The fact Sega has him in every game, Sonic X, the comics, Smash Bros trophy. You name something Sonic, he's involved in some way, He is THE Mad Scientist in the video game world, much like Bowser is THE princess kidnapping monster in video games. Wily isn't THE anything in the video game world. <br /><br />PS I think Zangief was inserted so they had the stereotypical Russian villain but from a character that is friendly for kids. He may not be bad but eh. Gotta make due with what they had. Can't spend the budget on getting those rights....Torchmannoreply@blogger.com