tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post4315895147526626089..comments2024-03-28T15:15:35.862-05:00Comments on Rockman Corner: Mega Man X7, X8 and Command Mission Never Happened?Protodudehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08650204880792333537noreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-15431047858482218422020-05-12T07:41:06.652-05:002020-05-12T07:41:06.652-05:00I don't think, in the timeline is specified th...I don't think, in the timeline is specified that zero was sealed immediately after the nightmare incident, besides why the government wouldn't seal zero right; away in mega man x6 is established that zero has to do something with the nightmare virus indeed isooc directly accused zero for it, not to mention that one of the form of the nightmare virus is literally zero,(a boss that you can fight in x6 to unlock zero) it was obvious that zero has to do somehow something with the nightmare virus and even if somehow you still think that that is not enough proof to link zero with the nightmare virus that doesn't explain why they didn't seal him right after mega man x6;let me explain in mega man x5 was establish that zero isn't only inmune to the virus but that it makes him stronger, so much that x and a radom lifesaver begin to think that zero could maybe bacame maverick, indeed that was one of the main reason of why x and zero fight in x5, and if that isn't enough signa even said that zero maybe has antibodies for the virus as an explanation you tell me wouldn't be the more reasonable decision seal zero to somehow share those antibodies with all the reploids. <br /> <br />If you stil think that the zero series is connected to x7,x8 and command mission, i would prove that thy aren't connected, in the first mega man zero, zero is awake and guess who had his z- saber, that's right x, so x5 did happen in the zero series,indeed in that same game there is a ship with a very interesting logo that says: R for repliforce obviously with that we can said that x5 and x4 are canon in t he zero series for sure.let's in mega zero 2 in that game there is boss with the ability to summon reploids of the past, the the reploids he summed during the fight were coronel, bite(the dude from x3), vile (with a design pretty to his x one design) and agile; with that we can say that the mega man x from the snes and x4 againg are canon (not to mention that in this game you can consult a computer in ciel's room that said that the Mavericks were ended alongside with the sigma virus and in mega man x8 the virus tecnally doesn't have any effect in new generation reploids).<br /><br />Mega man zero 3 and zero 4 are even more clear, in zero 3 is established that the mother elf was created to eliminate the sigma once for all not for any other reason, is for example in x9 lumine becames a new antogonist to the series and a "lumine virus" becames to spread that would just confirm that x7,x8 and command mission aren't connected to the zero series.In mega zero 4 you can talk to ciel right at the beginning of the game and she will tell you that the area zero is the place where the space colony erusia collapsed and about mega ma zx advent and model, master albert stated that model A was him and the A trans ability was his ability, he said before the boss rush and before the boss fight against him besides model z and x didn't see to recognize him even though they know the other biometal, by the way is the new generation are canon in the zero series why the reploids im the resistance on the first zero game didn't A trans to avoid being kill so easily,i mean they could easy just copy sigma's body like in x8 and why nobody used A trans during the zero series not even a single reploid?<br />That's all i hope you could understand, i don't mega man x7,x8 and command mission aren't canon, i just think they aren't connected to the zero series.<br /><br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14748749175404861478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-55083098320162263062011-07-16T04:44:39.953-05:002011-07-16T04:44:39.953-05:00well if you really look into it, the ending of meg...well if you really look into it, the ending of megaman x6 about zero being hybernated is just a time loop, if you look carefully at the dates it all makes sense, and that after MMXCM that was the time that zero was hybernated. simple right?ja-meshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08174049158041480675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-78419876911932038792011-07-16T04:42:32.314-05:002011-07-16T04:42:32.314-05:00well my own interpretation about the time line is ...well my own interpretation about the time line is that zero being hybernated in a capsule is after the MMXCM, so it only means that there was a time loop. but the strangest thing is what happened to axl?ja-meshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08174049158041480675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-12645689352402574652011-07-10T17:37:50.268-05:002011-07-10T17:37:50.268-05:00I don't get it.Is REALLY confusing.In my opini...I don't get it.Is REALLY confusing.In my opinion,Zero and ZX must be considered a What if,beceuse Zero 4 say than Eurasia chasehd on Earth,when Megaman x6 says than zero destroyed the Space colony.However,Copy X appeared in MMX7 Zero's ending(in a dream). ...OK,someone who can explain?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-11400952821423105672010-04-18T07:06:00.467-05:002010-04-18T07:06:00.467-05:00@anynimous
Really? Well, that means my sources ar...@anynimous<br /><br />Really? Well, that means my sources are wrong, or outdated, and I apologize if I said something inane.<br /><br />Anyway, taking Inafune out of the equation doesn't change the point I was trying to get across. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-63551195252186255202010-04-15T04:14:03.120-05:002010-04-15T04:14:03.120-05:00I personally see that timeline as a partial record...I personally see that timeline as a partial record of the most important events leading up to the Zero series, and that it's made to somewhat resemble a history made in the aftermath of Ragnarok, but not being completely accurate due to a loss of data. <br /><br />Keep in mind that from the standpoint of the Zero series, most of the data related to the past was either damaged or gone, and that humanity usually tends to remember the more important parts of the war. They usually focus on a few select people and glorify them to create a convinient, easy to remember image that can be used to unite the masses. <br /><br />Seeing as how research on X and Zero were what brought about the beginning of the war and the birth of the Mother Elf, and how those two were the key individuals in the Eurasia incident, it's only natural that they're the focus. <br /><br />In the case of Axl, he was a prototype model for a generation of repliroids that ended up being a generation of Sigma clones with individual thought. The government would have to hide this fact in order to remain in control, and thus they could have just removed Axl from the history books.<br /><br />The ENTIRE Zero Series was about taking down a faulty human-based dictatorship. You'd think a written timeline made by either side would be biased. And assuming that the timeline's written in a fashion that it looks like a record from the games themselves, there's bound to be inaccuracies and conviniently misplaced events.Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09081398670596655983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-34929356439165795312010-04-14T14:37:38.267-05:002010-04-14T14:37:38.267-05:00@necchan
Inafune was Executive Producer for the e...@necchan<br /><br />Inafune was Executive Producer for the entire Zero series and it was his "dream come true" by his own wording.<br /><br />He's "Special Thanks" in any X series game past X5 where he is EVEN involved (he weren't in X6 and CM), MHX the only exception where he was Executive Producer again.<br /><br />I think that speaks for itself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-62286581939184091572010-04-14T04:38:05.171-05:002010-04-14T04:38:05.171-05:00@anynimous
Well, yes, Inafune wasn't the one ...@anynimous<br /><br />Well, yes, Inafune wasn't the one to *make* those games, but at least to my knowledge, he had/has more say in the X series, than in Zero.<br /><br />Anyway, my point (as horribly as I tried to make it) was that RZ takes off from X6 "bad ending" (Or was SUPPOSED TO, when it was made); while X7 and following take off from X6 "good ending" (again, this is how things were at the time the games were developed. In such a big industry, and with such a high-selling franchise as Megaman, things never stand still, their status quo shifts endlessly, as does the canon. I guess I'm saying that those were the developers' "intentions" back in the days, at least on the grounds of what leaked and was told, etc. But in time, things change/changed.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-32302912342725039982010-04-13T07:20:45.148-05:002010-04-13T07:20:45.148-05:00Come on now, I can't really be the only one wh...Come on now, I can't really be the only one who considered the zero series nothing more of an, "What if" alternate timeline after zero is sealed away for w/e reason in X6. I always thought that if zero was to go in that capsule, then the zero series would come into play and if he didn't, then X7, X8 and CM happened and the latter being the alternate timeline or the "what if" case. Ive always thought this for years and now im just seeing ppl surprised about this? >_>;; dunno what to think now....MMXUnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-8827757531739434872010-04-11T20:36:04.939-05:002010-04-11T20:36:04.939-05:00I've stopped trying to interpret the Mega Man ...I've stopped trying to interpret the Mega Man series timeline a long while ago. I highly doubt that Capcom or Inafune have a set-in-stone, canonical timeline for the series. So many different people have been involved in the series, and they each have made their own contributions to the plot of the series. When you have all these different people involved in a series, it's inevitable that the timeline will be a garbled mess, since all of these people have THEIR own interpretations of the timeline. This series has been around for over 20 years, with so many different sequels, prequels, and spinoffs that it is inevitable that the timeline would be full of holes, inconsistencies and contradictions.Dolemitenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-387043520696713692010-04-11T18:16:53.056-05:002010-04-11T18:16:53.056-05:00I dont understand one thing...can some one help me...I dont understand one thing...can some one help me ^^U , Is X immune to all virus? Dr Light create the perfect inmmune robot? Why x dont become maverick?Rockitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07569203217793484817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-7394386010562248422010-04-11T18:16:53.057-05:002010-04-11T18:16:53.057-05:00I dont understand one thing...can some one help me...I dont understand one thing...can some one help me ^^U ? , Is X immune to all virus? Dr Light create the perfect inmmune robot? Why x dont become maverick?Rockitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07569203217793484817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-65567658291657925442010-04-11T15:26:13.313-05:002010-04-11T15:26:13.313-05:00I agree with what some people here have said: a ga...I agree with what some people here have said: a game not being directly mentioned does not mean that it did not happen. In the case of games like X3, X4, X7, X8, and CM, they didn't offer anything in particular that advanced the storyline towards the Zero series (Dr. Doppler, the Repliforce, and these other events, I think, happened, but they aren't particularly relevant in this case).<br /><br />Of course, COMMAND MISSION is set in 22XX (ca. 221X), and this does somewhat conflict with people's original notions that the ZERO games took place in 22XX (but perhaps, if CM is 22XX, then they actually do take place in 23XX). Yet, this brings up another issue: since it says X was sealed over 200 years ago (20XX, perhaps 201X or 202X), this would imply that the Zero games actually do take place in 22XX. And, I also have to wonder when, exactly, Zero was sealed (it says 100-199 years ago)? Inferring this, though, we could figure then that the Zero games take place in the earlier part of 22XX. Interesting issues here.<br /><br />As to what the Maverick Virus comes from, I am quite surprised they used that as an excuse. I mean, they had so much else they could have worked with. I agree that the Roboenza was a good precursor to the virus they could have used, but it seems that they've stricken that as a possibility by claiming it is merely an antiquated computer virus that was stored (perhaps inadvertently?) in the computer system of Zero's capsule. Quite a cop-out and a disappointment, really.<br /><br />Is any of this information ever going to be made in a physical form, perhaps in a new source-book or in materials included with the ZERO COLLECTION?Jessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18067220810858993065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-35594128216229702332010-04-11T14:02:28.163-05:002010-04-11T14:02:28.163-05:00@necchan
Inafune didn't "create" X7...@necchan<br /><br />Inafune didn't "create" X7 or X8 at all so much as he was consulted on some things and just let the current team at the time do their thing.<br /><br />Command Mission he had nothing to do with it going as far as to state he didn't want to touch it at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-92224483359334319542010-04-11T12:27:56.790-05:002010-04-11T12:27:56.790-05:00It's not as if they didn't completely skip...It's not as if they didn't completely skip The X-Hunters, Dopplertown, & Repliforce.Pluviushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14750832370114494940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-6026764426348690972010-04-11T04:04:07.742-05:002010-04-11T04:04:07.742-05:00I'm in a rush (as usual!!!!!!!!!); but this is...I'm in a rush (as usual!!!!!!!!!); but this is so interesting, I just had to r/r.<br />Due to the rush, I only skimmed over the post , but unless memory serves me wrong... that storyline *is* accurate. <br />Or at least, when Capcom made X6, that's how things were supposed to go/have gone. X's made, Zero's made, they're sealed, they're found, they fight the virus, the virus spreads out, Zero finds out - or begins to suspect, rather - that he's the source, he dies several times and then seals himself, and then HAIL!TYRANT!X! - I mean, then X goes mad, creates Neo-Arcadia, becomes a tyrant, etc.etc., there's no Copy X to take the blame of any of his acts, and then BAM! Hello! Amnesiac!Zero! ~ welcome to the RZ series.<br />(I repeat, I might be remembering wrong, but...)<br />Inticreates took the reins of the RZ project, and planned out on their own the events that'd bridge the two series together. However, Inafune kept working on RX even after RZ was out. He negated the "bad ending" of X6 - which brought Inti straight to RZ1 - went with the "best ending" instead, and created X7, X8 and command mission. These games either negate, distort or postpone most of what the RZ project had given as "proven past fact" - I guess this means the two series (RX, and RZ) became parallel-universes-theories more than same-universe-prequel/sequel.<br /><br />That's why X7, X8 and the rest don't appear in that brief summary - they aren't in line with Inticreates's storyline. Or, if we want to take ALL games into account and give them the same importance, they just aren't "as important" to chronicle Zero's life, as the rest. <br /><br />*/rambling*Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-80899599522381219492010-04-10T23:23:29.279-05:002010-04-10T23:23:29.279-05:00X7, X8, and CM events do not need to be stated to ...X7, X8, and CM events do not need to be stated to be canon.<br /><br />Though the events of X6 seem outta place if X7, X8, and CM are out of the timeline. It's like with the .hack//GU series, only barely skimming over the events. THAT one's timeline didn't cover either anime.<br /><br />On a sidenote, since when did rest get a second S?Dead Heathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13544983839142493097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-66821155155246145332010-04-10T17:01:21.320-05:002010-04-10T17:01:21.320-05:00As LBD "Nytetrayn" and others have menti...As LBD "Nytetrayn" and others have mentioned, simply because it was left out doesn't mean it's not canon. The first things anyone should've noticed was that the "Counter Hunters" and "Doppler Wars" events were left that if they were concerned about post-X6.<br /><br />Besides, I'm pretty sure the developers mentioned a thousand plus times they're not completely sure how the canon ties in. Heck, even the Zero OCW says their explanation [about Zero and Omega] may or may not be canonical. The biggest dispute is what the Sigma Virus ACTUALLY is. For the longest time, people believed it originated from Zero (as depicted from the X4 cutscene), and even this synopsis mentions that. On the other hand, the Zero OCW states that X was the origin of the virus, which causes robots/Reploids to weigh the value of humans against robots. Zero, who was initially evil, got infected and then became good. Personally, I like the former scenario, but the fact that the second theory exists means that not everything is black and white.<br /><br />The whole thing is confusing, and Inafune is probably the only one capable of putting closure on it. But he and other developers probably won't, because they, being the jerks they are, leave it to the "fans' interpretation." (their X OCW response to "is Serges Dr. Wily?")Soultriggernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-66587523419596147572010-04-10T13:48:13.224-05:002010-04-10T13:48:13.224-05:00Oh wow, saying the tower was built from Jakob is a...Oh wow, saying the tower was built from Jakob is a shitty way of saying X8 had to happen. I'm sorry, but when they retcon an entire game, I don't think they're going to care about retconning that out.<br />As for <br /><br /> "Regardless, I don't care what Capcom says. As far as I'm concerned, if it exists as a game, its cannon."<br /><br /><br />I'm sorry, but that is not how it works. Cannon is what CAPCOM says what happens, not the fans. If they say nothing happen past MM2 happened , and everything else was a videogames in series, it would be cannon. Stupid yes, but cannon all the same.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-47222282852976733332010-04-10T09:26:40.247-05:002010-04-10T09:26:40.247-05:00Maybe,just maybe,it may sound weird of lame but,MA...Maybe,just maybe,it may sound weird of lame but,MAYBE Zero may have been capsuled all this time,maybe X7-CM is just a Stimulation? It sounds plausibleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-18119697683866860852010-04-10T02:38:28.280-05:002010-04-10T02:38:28.280-05:00Oh RLY, Capcom? ¬¬Oh RLY, Capcom? ¬¬Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09073097642120508214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-52855860053476158032010-04-10T01:45:37.640-05:002010-04-10T01:45:37.640-05:00ZERO's ending in X6, is where this point of th...ZERO's ending in X6, is where this point of the timeline always was. Inafune has even said so himself, during discussion on Rockman ZERO's conception in relation to his influence and work on X6 as well as general comments on anything past X6.<br /><br />Interesting how Rockman 10's "Threat from Space" could have been made to be the series-breaker here, with what we'd call the Sigma Virus now apparently a Robotenza variant that mutated in ZERO's capsule while he slept. Wily must have designed ZERO with some pretty damn strong armor, to not induct the new Robotenza strain until he was damaged.<br /><br />At least there are better details on how ZERO became 'Rockman' ZERO and the whole clone body and Omega original body deal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-66469183847390472742010-04-10T00:47:51.576-05:002010-04-10T00:47:51.576-05:00I'm agreeing with cccd-erckie on "Regardl...I'm agreeing with cccd-erckie on "Regardless, I don't care what Capcom says. As far as I'm concerned, if it exists as a game, its cannon." Besides, if it can be assumed that each X game takes place with 1-3 years each, that we assume that each of the games takes places near the year 23XX (for CM), that Zero's ED in X6 takes place after all X games during which Irregular/Elf Wars are ending; therefore would lead us into the years of 24XX since it just says that Zero series takes place ~100 years after the X series (was it ever mention which years does the Zero games take place in?) I don't know if that make any sense. <br /><br />Capcom, you should just stop contradicting yourself and just used the summaries that was given with the original release with slight modifications. And so by saying that the virus came from space and made the robots in 20XX (or was it 19XX?) go crazy, we can say that that was the most likely outcome for Rock, Roll, Blues, Forte, etc? (way to spoil it Capcom). <br /><br />I agree that we need another collection book for background and concept instead of pictures.ShadowNeko003https://www.blogger.com/profile/03957995145181111381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-49312136906024559152010-04-09T21:42:18.207-05:002010-04-09T21:42:18.207-05:00@ Anon: It never sait it was Jakob, all it said is...@ Anon: It never sait it was Jakob, all it said is that it was an Orbital elevator from the Maverick wars. CM is still maverick wars, and theres another one there too. we can assume it was just another elevator.Flamenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080026879350344019.post-53034404820442341892010-04-09T20:57:01.752-05:002010-04-09T20:57:01.752-05:00We need a "Rockman Series Official Complete W...We need a "Rockman Series Official Complete Works" book, but this time with less images and more (and very detailed) information, with character profiles and all the events in the franchise's timeline, from the birth of Light and Wily to the end of Mega Man Legends 2. And a section to the BN and Star Force series too.<br /><br />We have Jakob > Neo Arcadia Tower, but what about Wily's "small" tower in MM10? Jakob wasn't the first tower to reach space, neither in timeline (MM10) nor in game released date (Zero 1 was released first). Jakob required a lot of work to be built, while Wily managed to build a tower even with his problem with money (Crystal Man, MM9's Swiss Count) and "past technology" (but superior intellect).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com